Question:
who thinks the gold medal for women's gymnastics should belong to people who play fair and square!? ?
arky
2008-08-13 06:21:38 UTC
i honestly dont understand why china was not called out on the issue of having underage gymnists before the olympics even started. i would not mind whatsoever if china got the gold fair and square...but thats NOT what happened. yes, china did a fantasic job last night in the finals....but if you have to play dirty in order to receive a gold medal, whats the point!? i hope that after the olympics are said and done, that china will be called out on their mistake and that the gold medal will be given to people who play fair and square in the world games.
Sixteen answers:
Venom
2008-08-13 06:31:29 UTC
All I know is that during the Olympic Opening Ceremony, in the coverage the BBC provided, the commentators remarked at the ages of some people being 14 or 15, but not that that was against the rules. They didn't seem to think that being 14 was against the rules so...was China cheating?
2008-08-13 06:45:09 UTC
My suggestion would be for everyone in the gymnastics community, especially those with clout, need to get on the IOC's @ss about China. Everybody else is playing by the rules, or maybe some of these nations might try to sneak in an athlete who's just one year shy of the age requirement (that isn't right either), but certainly not by 4 years! The world just told China that they are allowed to break the rules. If they are able to get away with it on the biggest event, you can bet they'll cheat at the world championships too. This isn't right.



Bela Karoyli may not be my favorite person, but dammit if there was ever a time he needs to use his political muscle along with other powerful members of the gymnastics community to call for a full investigation of China's athletes, now would be a good and just reason to do so.
2008-08-14 16:25:35 UTC
These girls definitely are under the age limit to compete. The Chinese government has a rule that everyone has to be "essential" to the success of the country. Children are sent away to "sports factories" by their parents in order to learn diving, swimming, gymnastics, tennis and other sports. If not, they are sent to military schools to join the Red People's Army.



At the "sports factories", they live the sport they are "forced" to excel at and nothing else matters until they are released back to their parents, which is only when they "retire" from that sport to become a baby breeding machine after marriage.



Americans, on the other hand, have lives, can freely go to the mall or visit their friends, can say bad things about the government without fear of reprisals, do not get punished if they make mistakes while performing, don't eat dogs, can grow up doing whatever they want to do, visit the gym whenever they want, can leave the gym to go home to their parents, do not get kidnapped and brought to "reprogramming" centers, are more creative in gymnastics and don't need to cheat by having a communist country's government strong arm the judges by intentionally having them delay results while other athletes are awaiting their start time and falsifying birth documents
jamonbisquit
2008-08-13 06:40:43 UTC
I agree with you 100%. Our girls deserve the medal! If China has to cheat to win, well then, they shouldn't win at all! I think a thorough investigation needs to be done by the IOC into the ages of China's gymnasts. You can't tell me that those girls are all 16. They are amazingly talented, yes, but they don't meet the age requirements, so they shouldn't be competing! I think China needs to have its gymnastics medals revoked and given to the runner up below them. Alicia, Shawn, Nastia, Bridget, Chellsie - Great job! You are all amazing athletes who deserve the gold! GO USA!!!!!



And Terri - the Chinese did better. You're right. But they did better because they used underage gymnasts. AKA cheating.
shoppergurl
2008-08-16 18:17:27 UTC
Some asian girls just look younger I've got a friend who is 17 but looks like a freshman. But the gymnasts did look really young. People already called china out on their age but the government pulled out their passports and said that they were legally 16 so unless there is proof that they had their ages changed, the IOC can't do anything about it. And i think the reason is that its easier to do some of the tricks when you're slightly younger.
2016-10-12 02:31:56 UTC
Ive heard at present that there are some protests approximately that total ordeal and that the olympic commitee is stressful evidence of their a while by skill of the tip of next month yet theyll probably merely falsify the records. What have been given me became that between the girls honestly had her back the teeth lacking that are probably her twelve 365 days molars and people often lose those between 12 and 13. Of couese having reported that it form of makes me unhappy for those females using fact gold medals for them skill a house for his or her households and a actual way out of poverty, so the two way you look at it somebody gets screwed, no remember if its out of a medal for the people or out of a house for the chinese language. China truly fuc|{ed issues up for a great form of persons this bypass around.
georgew
2008-08-13 12:55:59 UTC
They are definitely underage. I am asian and have never seen 16 year olds that look 10. I know that the Chinese start the age when they are conceived rather than when they are born. So I wonder if that is adding a year to their age also. I think this should be looked into further and a disqualification made if they are too young.
2008-08-15 02:41:47 UTC
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2008-08-13 06:27:04 UTC
They can't be called out unless the IOC has solid evidence that the girls were under 16. It does say 16 on their passport / birth certificate, and yes China may have altered that, but unless the IOC has proof that China did, nothing can be done.
mykay
2008-08-13 06:31:25 UTC
The FIG set the age limit of 16, not the IOC. The limit used to be 14. Until you have actual proof that this happened then the result is fair.
Terri
2008-08-13 06:37:51 UTC
You have no evidence of what you claim, and isn't this the country where people are innocent until proven country? People like you make America look childish and petty. I stand as an American that can concede that someone else did better, and I do it with grace. Maybe you should work on that.
Di$count $hoe $hopper
2008-08-13 06:29:47 UTC
I agree! Most of the Chinese gymnasts are like 12. Can't they wait until the next Olympics when they're all actually 16??
kollerbear
2008-08-13 12:49:15 UTC
I agree, it was SO obvious-esp the one 9 year old who had a missing BABY tooth!!! AND the eye shadow was a lame attempt to make them look older. Sure, our girls made some mistakes but at least they PLAY BY THE RULES.
2008-08-13 06:29:29 UTC
where did you find the evidence that the girls you're talking about are really underage?



Even if China did field underage girls, then china is the one HANDICAPPED.



WHY DOESNT IOC ALLOWED GIRLS UNDER 16 IN FIRST PLACE?
2008-08-13 06:40:20 UTC
i think ya'll need to stop hating on the chinese before we all get blown the hell up!
LJ's Back!
2008-08-13 06:29:43 UTC
that sacramone chick choked. she made a fool of herself, twice, and cost her team the gold medal. USA did not deserve to win that gold.


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