Question:
Now that China is leading the Olympic in medals in both Total and Gold what Americans are gonna say now?
Alexander the great
2012-07-29 11:38:58 UTC
Traditionally the Olympics have been won by whoever gets more Gold medals but in 2008 the US media started counting only TOTAL medals since China was leading the US in gold. So far China leads in both total and gold so what is the media in the US is gonna say now? I'm not anti American but I know America doesn't like to be second in anything and in 2008 that was pathetic.
Twelve answers:
?
2012-07-29 11:54:18 UTC
I say congratulations China. They have done very well so far.
shorthandedrosary
2012-07-31 23:29:49 UTC
The US media has been doing it the same way for as long as I can remember--at least as far back at 1992. They have always sorted by total medals. As fate would have it, America won on total medals but finished second on total golds back in 2008. The same thing may happen this year, and I'm not usually one to defend American media, but this is not a sign of bias.
Chaos
2012-07-29 11:57:27 UTC
1) It's counted by total medals and always has been

2) It's the SECOND day of SIXTEEN. Calm down

3) U.S' "Fab Five" in Women Gymnastics has yet to perform in any medal competition

4) Loche and Phelps still got plenty of events to medal in. As well as the other U.S women swimmers, like Missy Franklin

5) U.S will get more medals than China in Track and Field

6) U.S will no doubt win Gold in Men Basketball and at least a medal in Women Soccer



Not bashing China, just don't jump to conclusion about how it'll end after two days
Boise Brett
2012-07-29 11:46:34 UTC
For as long as I can remember, we've been going by total medals, not just gold. If it was only the gold that counted, then why would they waste their time and money making silver and bronze medals? But as for now, since China leads in both, I'm just gonna say wait a little while. We still have our strong points in swimming, track and field, and gymnastics coming up while China's events are currently going.
______
2012-07-30 08:46:39 UTC
Well it just started. There's like two weeks left and we haven't even gotten to the good stuff. Also, we have more medals both in total and in gold than any other country when you look at the all time Olympic medal table. I just checked and  we're tied with the total number of medals, but they have 4 more gold...for now. 
earle
2016-10-14 11:51:23 UTC
no longer that i study your total rant, however the IOC does no longer help something a pair of medal count quantity in any respect!!!! The IOC might relatively human beings only concentration on the activities and athletes that compete. yet once you opt for to get technical, medal count quantity is the count variety of medals. A Gold Medal count quantity may be a count variety of Gold medals. in case you pass via the word, then medal count quantity is the entire of medals won via a u . s . a .. yet crying approximately this whilst the Olympics are not even over is stupid and infantile. maximum appropriate now at 9:46edt 20/08/08 the medal count quantity is tied and China is indexed as quantity one million. end crying approximately this....it petty in nature.
John
2012-08-01 11:20:30 UTC
1) “Traditionally the Olympics have been won by whoever gets more Gold medals”



No, that’s not true – traditionally the Olympics have never been ‘won’ by anyone. The Olympics were revived to be a unifying event that brought the world together. That concept of ‘winning’ it never was part of the Olympic movement.



According to IOC President Jacques Rogge:



"I believe each country will highlight what suits it best. One country will say, 'Gold medals.' The other country will say, 'The total tally counts.' We take no position on that." (Shipley, Amy. August 25, 2008. "China's Show of Power". The Washington Post)



2) “In 2008 the US media started counting only TOTAL medals since China was leading the US in gold”



Nope, wrong again. The US has ALWAYS used the total medal count. In fact, it wasn’t until the breakup of the USSR that the US started to top the total medal count. No conspiracy there, look it up. The Olympics were historically an amateur event and the US was one of the handful of countries that played by the rules. By the 1992 games the ‘amateur’ rule was dropped and that’s when the US finally started to send their pro athletes – but not every best athlete they have goes. In the 2000 games, for example, the US Olympic baseball team was made up of college and semi-pro players (they won gold).



Prior to the Beijing games it was reported in the US and internationally (I read about it in Vietnam’s English language newspaper) that China was spending millions on coaches and training for the upcoming games. However, they focused on events that were more obscure and had little competition – air-rifle, ping pong, badminton – second tier games as opposed to the premier events which were dominated by the big sporting powers like the US, Germany, Russia, and Australia.



In essence it was a propaganda campaign for domestic Chinese consumption – winning a bunch of gold medals looks good on home soil and adds legitimacy to the Chinese Communist government which has been under increasing unrest from within. It worked, China won gold in air-rifle and ping pong and everyone was happy. But there was one problem – China blasted to the world “Look at us, we won the Olympics” (and, again, no one ‘wins’ the Olympic Games).



So what happened? People looked at China and said a) no one ‘wins’ the Olympics, and b) they won in obscure sports with little competition and not against the strong national teams.



And how much did China spend for their gold in air-rifle and ping pong? I’ve heard tens of millions of dollars, maybe more. And how much does the US spend on its team? ZERO! The US provides NO funding for its athletes’ training. These are people who are regular folks with jobs – sometimes two jobs – while trying to make the Olympics. Again, if you don’t believe me, look it up – the US provides ZERO funding.



3) “I'm not anti American but I know America doesn't like to be second in anything and in 2008 that was pathetic.”



Just what was “pathetic”? If you’re referring to the coverage then you obviously don’t know much about the US or spent much time there – especially during the 2008 games. If anything you would have been impressed with the media coverage. It was extremely complimentary to China and nothing – and I mean nothing – was said regarding coming in ‘second’. It was only later when international media outlets started to pick up on China’s ‘winning’ comment and the fact the Chinese specifically targeted soft events where it could win more medals that people started to brush China off. And that’s what people did – brush China off.



Seriously, do you really think China ‘won’ because it picked up medals in weak sports with little competition while purposely avoiding direct competition with the US and others in the premier events? If you had a chance to watch Olympic ping pong or Olympic track and field, which one would you watch? My point exactly.



So, we are left with the following:



• China spends tens of millions to get medals in sports with little competition.

• China can’t compete with the US, Australia, and others in the premier sports.

• Then China has the gall to declare that they ‘won’ a sporting event that can’t be won or lost because they took the easy road.

• And did so while unilaterally declaring that the ‘official’ standard is the amount of gold medals even though the IOC said that no such standard exists.



I’ve seen a lot of postings from Chinese about the 2008 games and the medal/gold count. I don’t think the problem is that Americans are upset about winning less gold medals; I think it’s the Chinese that are upset because they thought their plan to win gold was ingenious but in reality it made them look rather silly.



By the way, the Chinese female double’s badminton team was disqualified for cheating.
Louie O
2012-07-29 11:52:00 UTC
This American says he's been watching the Olympics since the 1968 Olympics in Mexico and they used a Total medal count back then... and 99% of Americans aren't going to lose any sleep over it.
2012-07-29 11:47:32 UTC
Dude, it's the second day of competition and the difference is only 3 medals.



BTW. From what I saw last night, don't count on the Chinese gymnastics team bringing home a truckload of medals. They had a rough time of it.
?
2012-07-29 11:59:56 UTC
I'm gonna say that the Olympics haven't even completed two full days yet...maybe your trash talk is a bit premature?
?
2012-07-29 11:41:42 UTC
Maybe we will say china is the same size as us but has 3.4x the population and still has top 10 worse living conditions outside of africa.
mojolicious
2012-07-29 11:45:28 UTC
This medal table bølløcks is really, really boring.


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